Dana Lowell 32:40
Well, I think it's definitely going to happen. I, you know, you referenced electric, and I mean, I've been driving electric cars since 2012 2014. And if you'd have told me in 2012, that would still have 2% penetration of electric vehicles, 3%, whatever it is, it's low. In it, we're just now getting into more ramped up portfolio of vehicles from multiple OEMs with electric drive train offerings, and the infrastructure is beginning to get out there. So there's, there's more charging availability, or, you know, I always said it was, you know, I would have thought it would have happened five years ago. And I think likewise, with autonomous You know, there's some irrational exuberance in the autonomous and how fast it's going to be here. I mean, level two stuff where you can do smart highway driving Lane Keeping a smart cruise control, that's here, and that's going to continue to grow. But when you get into real day to day driving off the highway into cities and into congested areas, it's much more problematic. I mean, we've run an experiment in in Grand Rapids where seamless is located for the last year with with main mobility, which is an autonomous micro mobility shuttle. We hit we've had about 60,000 rides on it, I will probably, it's accumulated 50,000 hundred thousand miles. I don't know what the exact number is, but it runs a two and a half mile loop with 20 stops in the downtown city centers that are running for about a year and shut down due to the pandemic in March. I'm happy to announce that we just opened it up again, with partnership with planet M, which is the Michigan Economic Development Corp, the city of Grand Rapids, made mobility seamless and seamless as partners. And then also we brought in some new clean technology because of the concern as it relates to mass transit on safety. So we're partnered also with group ghsp which is providing some smart UVC technology and allyssa which is do an H 202. fogging of the interior to provide basically Six long surgical room cleanliness to the vehicles is at the beginning of the end of the ships and is back on the road again. But you know, it running it through the city, there's all kinds of issues that, you know, it can go from zero percent autonomous to 100%, autonomous, you know, obviously, weather, we really living in Michigan, there's snow, there's ice, there's accumulation of snow on the road, that is a big issue for autonomous. You can have, you know, there's a variety of things like construction, that can cause issues for autonomous, reckless driving around the vehicle or reckless pedestrians, bicycles around the vehicles can cause issues. You know, somebody parking your truck and wanting to unload furniture in the middle of the road, you know, there's, there's all these other behaviors that go on, to make autonomous in more congestion setting, challenging, and it's going to be all those edge cases that need to be solved for before autonomous can really happen. And level five in a common setting. Non control? So I mean, I'd look at that it's probably 10 years away, you know, before you really start thinking about autonomous taxis moving around the city free.